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To answer how someone continues to regenerate their career: Steel sharpens steel. Even though I was at the pinnacle of my career, I saw someone who was rising to the pinnacle of his career
and I saw a semblance in what he did and what I did. So I saw a semblance in producing albums, that had a semblance to directing films, but I didn’t know anything about directing films.
Always being a student is important. I was able to become a student of his. I was hired, and we got nominated for a few things. It was great for both of us. I also was old enough and humble
enough to become a student of the craft of filmmaking, and he was generous enough to accept me as a student and pour his brain into my brain. He wanted me to teach him how to make beats.
That was part of our trade, but he’s never sat down to take in that offer. I will say, I think that during that period of time when we were around each other, he has learned much more about
music and much more about the barriers that he can escape. Quentin always has great music in his movies. It wasn’t until _Inglourious Basterds_ that you would see that the time barrier of
music was broken. It wasn’t until _Django Unchained_ that you see that in the middle of a Western, there is a hip-hop track. Of course, me learning from him that you can do what you want in
a film and pull in many elements, like in _The Man With the Iron Fists_. I was the first one brave enough to put in Kanye West and Wiz Khalifa, rapping in a film that’s based in 1850. Those
types of barriers — cross-pollination — is important for artists. You may know what you know, but somebody may know more. And if you will adjust and absorb what they know, it can rejuvenate
you. DO YOU STILL RELATE TO HIP-HOP? DO YOU STILL LISTEN TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE OUT NOW, OR DOES IT SOUND A LITTLE FOREIGN TO YOU? I have an 18-year-old son who has been listening to hip-hop
since he was 9, so I get to listen to it through his ears. I would say, of course, I’m enjoying it because I’m hearing it through his ears. I also enjoy it because I’m a hip-hop fan. But, of
course, as an OG, I see what it lacks. What it was lacking even more three years ago was substance. But I will say that the lyrics are getting better and better. THIS IS YOUTH CULTURE, AND
YOU BROKE IN WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG. NOW, BEING A LITTLE OLDER, DO WE KNOW WHAT AN OLDER 50-SOMETHING RAP STAR IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE? WE KNOW WHAT A 50-, 60-SOMETHING ROCK STAR LOOKS LIKE.
WE’VE BEEN SEEING THAT FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES, BUT THE OLDER RAP STAR WE HAVEN’T SEEN MUCH OF YET.