Sag-aftra & studios go back & forth over ai as talks gain traction; more negotiations set for thursday – update

Sag-aftra & studios go back & forth over ai as talks gain traction; more negotiations set for thursday – update

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UPDATE, 8:51 PM: SAG-AFTRA and the AMPTP are spotlighting Artificial Intelligence in their latest round of talks in what has turned into a distinctly parallel track process. Just a few hours


after Deadline reported (see below) that the actors guild and the studios were getting “closer and closer” to a hard fought new three-year contact and a possible end to the now 111-day


strike, SAG-AFTRA sent out one of its most detailed missives yet to its 160,000-members. “The Negotiating Committee met today to discuss and finalize our response to the AMPTP AI


counter-proposal which we received yesterday,” the TV/Theatrical Negotiating Committee said. “The negotiators then met with AMPTP representatives for more than three hours this afternoon and


evening to present and review our revised proposal.” Along with a clear mechanism for what is now being termed as “success-based compensation” for the cast of hit streaming shows, AI has


doggedly proven a sticking point in deliberations, even before SAG-AFTRA went on strike in mid-July.  WATCH ON DEADLINE Not that there aren’t other topics and demands still to be bridged by


the parties. “We continue to await the AMPTP’s response to our comprehensive counter proposal package which we gave them on Saturday, addressing outstanding issues,” the guild went on to


tell members late Wednesday. “Please know that your presence on the picket lines and support on social media remain a source of inspiration.” Sources on both sides tell Deadline the AMPTP


and SAG-AFTRA intend to be in direct communication and talks tomorrow.  PREVIOUSLY, 5:19 PM: EXCLUSIVE: There’s real movement in talks between SAG-AFTRA and the studios for a new three-year


contract, No deal yet, but a framework is in place for a potential agreement, we hear. Back in negotiations Wednesday on day 111 of the actors strike, the two sides “are moving closer and


closer” to a deal, a SAG-AFTRA source says. Whether that leads to a tentative agreement in the next few days or next week remains to be seen, but a more “upbeat” mood is now pervading the


virtual talks – “for what that’s worth,” an industry insider close to negotiations said. “We’re beyond cautious optimism now, I’d say,” the source added, with a swipe at the term that has


been echoing out of the talks the past few days. SAG-AFTRA chief negotiator Duncan Crabtree-Ireland and AMTP president Carol Lombardini were in the driver’s seats once again today, with


smaller specialized teams drilling into the details. As such, the parties appear to taking at least some of the sting out of the thorny topics of AI and what has been termed “success-based


compensation” for casts of hit streaming shows and movies. “There’s a let’s-get-this-done attitude in the room,” a studio-side source said about the bullish vibe of today’s talks that did


not include the CEO Gang of Four of NBCUniversal’s Donna Langley, Disney’s Bob Iger, Warner Bros Discovery’s David Zaslav and Netflix’s Ted Sarandos. Another source added, “I know the big


issues are going well, but they continue to be going over AI wording,” and “it’s going to take a few days.” Today’s deliberations went into the late afternoon, with the parties anticipating


further talks tomorrow, November 2. This latest state of affairs comes on the heels of a multi-union Unity Picket rally outside Disney earlier in the day and the announcement Disney will be


buying out Comcast’s remaining 33% stake in Hulu for at $8.61 billion and counting. As has been the case for much of the past several days, neither SAG-AFTRA nor the AMPTP replied to


Deadline’s request for comment on today’s talks, If and when they do, we will update this post. In further hope that talks were moving in the right direction, SAG-AFTRA president Fran


Drescher said Wednesday in a video posted on social media: “I just want you to know that I feel a sense of strength, not anger, and I feel a sense of optimism, not negativity.” Even with


that optimism, the pain the industry is feeling from more than six months of strikes is weighing heavy on both sides’ minds, we hear. The now-settled WGA strike and ongoing SAG-AFTRA action


has cost California an estimated $6.5 billion and 45,000 entertainment jobs lost. Many below-the-line TV and film workers’ savings are being wiped out or are seeing their homes in jeopardy


after already weathering a global pandemic that also shuttered global production. Still, with the WGA strike over in late September, some studios have crews at the ready to restart


productions on titles that have been paused, i.e., _Gladiator 2 _and _Beetlejuice_, in hopes the actors will be back at work soon.   Also hanging in limbo is the fate of several


awards-season films, with stars over the past several months unable to trumpet their wares at film festivals and receptions around New York City and Los Angeles. Once stars such as Emma


Stone (_Poor Things_), Paul Giamatti (_The Holdovers_), George Clooney (_The Boys in the Boat_), and Rosamund Pike and Barry Keoghan (_Saltburn_) become available, many expect the upcoming


Oscar season to take a brighter hue. Filmmakers such as Emerald Fennell (_Saltburn_), Alexander Payne (_The Holdovers_) and Martin Scorsese (_Killers of the Flower Moon_) have been doing the


heavy lifting to get the buzz out there on their movies, but also open them as well; the latter Apple-Paramount title opened to a solid $23 million-plus stateside in a box office


marketplace that has been muted by the lack of actors promoting their films. A24, which isn’t a member of AMPTP, has seen several of its movies such as _Pricilla, Iron Claw,_ and _Dream


Scenario_ land SAG-AFTRA interim agreements, allowing its casts to publicize pics at fests and screenings.  Big Hollywood premieres, which can create wattage on social media before a film’s


opening, also are longing for an end to the actors strike. The new _Hunger Games_ prequel has a SAG-AFTRA interim deal due to the fact that Lionsgate isn’t a member of AMPTP, allowing its


cast to promote. However, Disney/Marvel Studios’ _The Marvels_, Warner Bros’ _Wonka_ and _Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom_ are hoping it will have casts in full attendance at their respective


fan events in the coming weeks if a deal can be made.